Design at a Molecular Level - 180001

Episode 1 August 31, 2020 00:27:45
Design at a Molecular Level - 180001
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Design at a Molecular Level - 180001

Aug 31 2020 | 00:27:45

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Scientists are just beginning to understand the structure and function of minute machines that are essential for life. Inside cells, these submicroscopic motors, generators and other machines operate by the same principles as the machines we are familiar with, only at much higher efficiency and within incredibly tight tolerances. What best accounts for these engineering marvels?

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0:04 [Music] 0:30 welcome to the creator revealed my name 0:34 is Tim Standish and I'm a scientist that 0:37 means that sometimes I speak a language 0:40 that doesn't really sound like English 0:43 so thankfully I have here with me 0:47 Shelley Quinn who is going to help me 0:49 still stick to English in this fabulous 0:54 program in which we are going to talk 0:57 about what the creation tells us about 1:01 the Creator you know we're so excited 1:04 about this Tim because first of all we 1:06 want to thank the Geoscience Research 1:08 Institute who has allowed him this time 1:11 off to come and produce a series and 1:15 we're very excited because creation 1:18 science is something that is doubted by 1:21 many it to me it's there's so much proof 1:27 that God is with us that God created us 1:30 and that's what we're going to do here 1:32 now the first 15 minutes of this program 1:35 you're going to get introduced to a 1:37 scientific fact 1:38 the second 15 minutes of the program 1:41 we're going to tie that in as to how it 1:46 affects you in a personal way and how 1:49 you can put it into a practical 1:51 application I'm looking forward to that 1:54 part yes but of course as a scientist 1:56 what I want to do is dive in to what we 1:59 are going to talk about and I want to 2:02 just preface our discussion of the 2:05 science with something that the Apostle 2:08 Paul wrote almost 2,000 years ago it may 2:11 seem like an unlikely thing to choose 2:14 but remember that Paul was writing to 2:18 all kinds of different people back there 2:21 in the Roman Empire in this letter to 2:24 the Romans he wrote these words he said 2:28 for since the creation of the world his 2:31 invisible attributes this is God's 2:34 invisible attributes are clearly seen 2:37 being understood by the things that 2:41 made even his eternal power and Godhead 2:46 so that they are without excuse what he 2:50 is saying here is that we just as the 2:54 Romans could can look at what God made 2:57 and we can learn certain things about 3:01 the creator in other words the creation 3:04 reveals the Creator so what is the thing 3:09 we're going to learn today well we're 3:11 going to learn about machines but not 3:15 the large machines that you're used to 3:18 thinking about things like cars and 3:20 tractors and cranes and and those sorts 3:23 of machines these machines operate on 3:26 exactly the same physical principles but 3:30 they are microscopic in fact they're 3:32 smaller than you can see with a normal 3:34 microscope they are molecular machines 3:37 they're made up of molecules but first 3:41 we need to understand why living things 3:45 need these little tiny machines inside 3:50 so let's let's sort of step back and 3:52 think about how life works and we all 3:55 know that the Sun shines and that 3:59 sunshine that light that comes down is a 4:02 form of energy and that light energy is 4:06 what plants use so that they can grow 4:09 produce photosynthesis right and so in 4:14 this amazing process of photosynthesis 4:18 there are all these machines little tiny 4:21 machines that are taking energy in the 4:24 form of light and converting it into 4:27 another form into chemical energy that's 4:30 what machines do they convert energy 4:33 from one form into another form and by 4:37 doing that they do work all right but if 4:41 that same light source is shining on an 4:46 inanimate or an object that is not alive 4:50 like asphalt it's not producing in it 4:53 exactly most people who draw 4:55 probably noticed that the roads do not 4:58 grow and repair themselves when the Sun 5:00 is out that's not what happens because 5:02 roads are not living things and living 5:05 things are distinctly different in part 5:08 because they have these little machines 5:11 in there that are doing this work but a 5:14 converting energy from one form into 5:17 another 5:18 all right all right so that's what we're 5:21 that's what we're talking about here now 5:23 the parts of machines the the molecular 5:26 machines these little tiny machines 5:28 they're the parts are made out of 5:30 primarily protein most people know what 5:33 that is so there's a question where did 5:35 that protein come from Charles Darwin 5:38 had a theory about that 5:40 now remember Charles Darwin he's a 5:42 materialist so he's trying to figure out 5:44 how can we do this without God and he he 5:47 wrote this to a friend he said if an oh 5:49 what a big if we could conceive in some 5:53 warm little pond with all sorts of 5:55 ammonia and phosphoric salts light heat 6:00 electricity etc present that a protein 6:03 compound was chemically formed see not 6:06 by God but by chemical formation ready 6:10 to undergo still more complex changes so 6:16 he's saying hey maybe we can get 6:17 proteins in a warm little pond that was 6:20 full of chemicals but there's a problem 6:23 with that and you have to understand how 6:26 these protein parts are made so let's 6:30 take a quick look at okay okay so 6:32 proteins they're made out of things 6:34 called amino acids and those amino acids 6:38 can be joined together by removing a 6:40 water molecule and you can just join 6:44 them together one after the other 6:46 usually proteins will be hundreds of 6:48 these amino acids long and each one of 6:52 them is joined together by removing a 6:54 water molecule so you don't have to it's 7:02 not gonna have proteins they're not 7:04 going to be dello developed according to 7:07 Darwin's theory in a warm little pond 7:09 because if you were trying the process 7:11 in a pond it's going to add h2o elements 7:16 not exactly water is what's in ponds 7:21 right so water is going to go into 7:23 things not come out so how is it then 7:27 that in living cells they can make 7:31 proteins because remember our bodies 7:34 those cells that our body are made has 7:36 made up of their more than 50% water so 7:40 how is it that this happens and the 7:42 secret is again in machines there are 7:45 machines that take the amino acids and 7:51 bring them together and remove that 7:54 water molecule they use energy to do 7:56 that work okay there's a lot of power 8:00 involved in all of this so think about 8:03 the irony of that you yes you've got to 8:06 have the machines to make the proteins 8:09 from which the machines are made okay 8:12 that's like a chicken and egg situation 8:13 you've got to have the whole system 8:15 functioning before you can have any of 8:17 it functioning that statement that to me 8:22 really supports an intelligent creator 8:25 or God Oh My yes yeah so let's let's 8:30 continue on I'm going to show you a 8:31 protein machine one of these machines 8:33 and this particular machine is like a 8:36 wind turbine the exactly the same 8:39 principles are involved so on a wind 8:42 turbine that wind energy is starts the 8:46 the turbine turning and that energy is 8:50 transferred then to a generator right so 8:53 the wind energy is then converted into 8:55 electrical energy that's how it works 8:58 the same principles are involved in this 9:01 fabulous little tiny microscopic sub 9:06 microscopic machine called ATP synthase 9:09 it generates energy it provides power to 9:14 your cells so that part there that you 9:17 can see at the top the blue part is like 9:19 the turbine it 9:20 twists things around and down at the 9:24 bottom the red part is the generator 9:26 part it makes this a substance called 9:30 ATP and you can see that they're joined 9:32 by a protein that transfers that 9:35 twisting energy a drive shaft okay 9:38 protein so without the protein nothing 9:43 would be happening exactly you'd have a 9:45 generator oh sorry a turbine spinning 9:47 around doing nothing and a generator 9:50 sitting there doing nothing without that 9:52 drive shaft protein containing the two 9:55 things together is it fair to say a 9:57 protein then is a building block for at 9:59 the cellular level yes oh yes yeah they 10:03 they are the very parts that these 10:05 machines are made out of and if you're 10:07 missing some of the parts the machine 10:09 isn't going to function at all you 10:11 certainly all of these machines require 10:13 a set of parts so one protein isn't 10:15 going to do much for you you've got to 10:17 have a whole lot here's another machine 10:19 that's also involved in what we call the 10:21 energy metabolism of the cell that's not 10:24 a little bitty microscopic thing we just 10:26 look at yeah this is just another way of 10:29 showing what these machines look like 10:32 and the different colors of different 10:34 proteins they're amazing 10:37 really a complicated thing the reason I 10:40 wanted you to see that particular one is 10:42 because it's part of something we call 10:44 the glycolytic pathway that means sugar 10:48 splitting pathway this is ten different 10:53 machines that are equally complex 10:56 sometimes more complex than that one 10:58 that I just showed you and each one of 11:01 them has to do their job because if they 11:04 don't you've got a big problem on your 11:06 hand you're turning sugar in this 11:08 particular case into another chemical 11:10 called pyruvate and you're getting 11:13 energy out of the sugar the problem is 11:16 you've got to put energy in at the 11:18 beginning this is like lighting a match 11:19 to start a fire you're putting a little 11:22 bit of energy in and it's not until 11:24 later on in this process that you start 11:27 getting out chemicals that are actually 11:29 useful for energy so that 11:33 tene so that you know that protein is at 11:36 step number six in this series of of 11:42 steps in this assembly line if you want 11:45 to call its addy assembly law so 11:47 splitting the sugar is what gives us the 11:49 energy and if any one of these steps is 11:52 missing it and every single living 11:56 things has this whole pathway in there 11:58 it's not just one or two machines it's a 12:01 whole set of machines working together 12:04 in every little cell in every single 12:07 human cell in every single rat cell in 12:11 every single fish cell in every single 12:14 bacterial cell every single plant cell 12:17 that's amazing yeah it's it's 12:19 jaw-dropping when you when you think 12:21 about it okay 12:23 so what can we learn from this what does 12:26 this tell us about the Creator well 12:30 remember what Paul said about power 12:35 God's eternal power I would suggest that 12:39 there are two things first of all God's 12:43 power is revealed in the numerous 12:47 machines he created so that life can 12:51 exist in addition his power to create 12:55 and sustain is revealed in the intricate 12:59 mechanisms hidden within living things 13:02 so these are invisible to us and yet 13:06 when we dig down when we zoom in and 13:08 look there they are and they tell us 13:12 something profound about the creator's 13:16 power that is astonishing I think I want 13:22 to just think about for a moment how God 13:26 the Bible says we are fearfully and 13:29 wonderfully made and how amazing it is 13:31 that all of this is going on in every 13:34 cell of our body think about how amazing 13:37 it is that we're as healthy as we are 13:40 when there's so many things that could 13:42 go wrong it's a miracle 13:43 Elizabeth and we're going to talk a 13:45 little bit more about this miracle but 13:48 we're going to do it sixty seconds from 13:50 now so please do not go away 13:54 [Music] 14:02 welcome back to the creative revealed 14:04 today we're talking about molecular 14:07 machines the little machines and 14:09 molecules and who better than a nano 14:13 chemist to have on the second half of 14:17 the program exactly dr. Ryan Hayes 14:19 teaches chemistry at Andrews University 14:22 he is a nano chemist that means a 14:25 chemist who makes really tiny tiny tiny 14:28 little things now we've been talking 14:31 about nano machines really when we're 14:35 talking about those machines those 14:37 molecular machines inside the cells so 14:42 let's meet dr. Hayes let's ask him a 14:45 little bit about what exactly a nano 14:48 chemist does and then we'll get into 14:49 into some nano machines stuff yes hi dr. 14:54 Hayes welcome thank you thanks for 14:58 having me on this program this is 15:00 exciting now we got to be careful about 15:03 the term nano chemists because some 15:04 people may think that just means I'm a 15:06 really really small chemist and that's 15:09 not the case I've met you you look 15:10 completely life-size it is but I do 15:16 study and actually we actually have a 15:19 company that I'm a part of where we make 15:22 nano materials and and so to a chemist 15:26 actually nano materials are quite large 15:29 but to our eye and to everyone else 15:31 nanomaterials are very very small so 15:35 small that you can't see them but they 15:39 are a collection of atoms and molecules 15:41 to form large chemical structures to us 15:46 but they're usually precisely engineered 15:50 and controlled to give you the right 15:53 size and functionality to do really 15:56 interesting things and a nano scientists 16:00 nano chemists there's some out there 16:01 trying to build little nano cars and 16:04 nano sized batteries and I like to build 16:08 nano sized versions of this little 16:11 suction ball cup I can say more about 16:13 that 16:14 that's a little shout-out to my students 16:16 who know I like to talk about 16:17 nanomaterials that look like this and 16:20 but inside our body there's there's just 16:22 an amazing amount of nano sized 16:25 structures doing amazing things there so 16:28 it may be so it's all about yeah baby 16:31 you tell us a little bit about what 16:32 precisely it takes to make these really 16:36 small structures first of all that they 16:38 something that you can see under a 16:39 microscope or how would you how would 16:42 you visually are they smaller than that 16:44 even well they're definitely smaller 16:49 than what you can see with a microscope 16:50 people have been able to a scientists 16:53 been able to visualize them with things 16:54 like an electron microscope or an atomic 16:58 force microscope and so we have ways of 17:01 actually getting visualization of them 17:04 giving their structures but to build 17:06 them boy this is a real tough job and it 17:10 takes a lot of knowledge of chemistry 17:12 and the and the rules of how chemicals 17:14 react with each other to overcome 17:18 thermodynamics these things want to just 17:20 spread out but we want to bring all the 17:22 molecules together so there's some 17:24 organization that needs to be thought of 17:28 in advance to bring these things 17:31 together so I do this on a on a daily 17:33 basis so what you're saying then is 17:35 there has to be a plan when you start 17:38 you can't just sort of walk into a lab 17:41 and say yeah let's let's see what 17:44 happens when I mix together these 17:45 chemicals today 17:48 that's exactly right now my students 17:50 would would hope it would be like that 17:52 let's just make some things together and 17:54 hopefully get some great nano structures 17:56 but know we have to go in with a plan 17:59 and a recipe and and even with that even 18:02 with our best recipes we still struggle 18:05 to make pure products with the desired 18:09 purpose that we have in mind so yeah I 18:13 definitely need to paint a plan a good 18:15 recipe and a good laboratory space that 18:19 usually needs to be clean you need to be 18:22 able to run your reactions without 18:25 interference and all the 18:28 time and temperatures there's a lot of 18:29 factors that we think about to get to 18:32 the right structures that we're trying 18:34 to build and we're trying to build we 18:35 built some really simple nano structures 18:37 here especially compared to what we see 18:40 and living creatures well let me ask you 18:43 about that I mean you're you're you're a 18:47 smart guy and and you have all of this 18:50 equipment if you set out to make one of 18:56 these little nano structures these 18:58 relatively simple little nano structures 19:00 about how long would it take you to make 19:03 one is this something that you know you 19:05 can have a good idea in the morning and 19:07 and have by the afternoon or is it 19:09 something that takes considerably longer 19:11 than that that's a great question and it 19:17 depends on how elaborate you want your 19:20 structure now the ones that we make they 19:23 can take weeks and months to make the 19:28 structures that we're looking for and 19:30 these are relatively simple ones that 19:34 have a lot of repetitive structures to 19:36 them yeah in fact that's kind of a 19:39 problem is how long it can take and that 19:42 drives up the cost and these things can 19:44 be kind of expensive and so yeah it can 19:48 take weeks and months and that's not 19:51 just letting them sit in a pot and stir 19:53 like a pot of spaghetti we actually have 19:55 to go in it we'll do that part for a 19:57 little bit then we have to pull out the 19:59 materials clean them up and maybe do 20:03 some purification and then get them 20:04 ready for another step we spend a lot of 20:07 time doing that there's some shortcuts 20:09 you can take but then you lose out on 20:11 the structure you won't get the 20:13 beautiful structures if you try to take 20:16 some shortcuts but what is quite a 20:18 challenging time and what you're saying 20:21 doctor is that this takes intelligent 20:25 design in a plan that has to be carried 20:29 forward oh absolutely and even what's 20:34 simple if there's such a thing as simple 20:36 nano structures but you you definitely 20:39 need a plan 20:41 you need a an extreme amount of 20:43 knowledge about how these molecules 20:47 these chemicals the atoms the electrons 20:49 how all these things work and without a 20:52 plan you're gonna get a mess and as one 20:55 of my advisers said you put garbage in 20:58 you get garbage out we need really clean 21:01 materials and you need a good plan you 21:04 need awesome intelligence to think about 21:06 all of the side reactions that can 21:08 happen and all the ways to go wrong so 21:10 that you can prevent those from 21:12 happening as much as we'd like chemistry 21:14 to just happen being in the lab has 21:18 proven to me that this is quite a 21:20 challenge to make even simple nano 21:23 structures so what do you think about 21:25 Darwin's theory of the that warm pool 21:29 and the chemicals coming together for 21:31 this little amoeba like structure yeah 21:35 that that's a great question it's 21:37 important to know the history right 21:38 there and I won't go all into that but 21:40 much of Darwin's thoughts were were 21:42 formulated well before chemistry was 21:44 even established in the way that it is 21:47 in the modern scientific way that we 21:49 know how chemicals react and he thought 21:51 there was just you know a couple four or 21:53 five chemicals that came together in a 21:55 little bubble to make life and we know 21:57 now it's thousands of chemicals coming 21:59 together in a complex not bubble but a 22:03 surrounding and a amazing amount of nano 22:06 structures that have come together not 22:08 just one nano structure but many of them 22:10 that have come together to form a 22:14 working living system so a warm little 22:17 pond I think we would love it if it was 22:19 that easy but the more we know about 22:21 life and the nano structures and the 22:24 nano materials that life is made out of 22:25 we understand the complexity that's 22:28 there and I and I think there's a desire 22:31 or you know that scientists think well 22:33 maybe we're missing something there's 22:35 some theory that's going to come along 22:36 and change all of this well the more we 22:39 look the more complicated again so this 22:42 problems not getting any easier so it's 22:44 getting worse and not better let me let 22:46 me ask you this if if you think about 22:49 these nano machines these complex nano 22:52 machines that we find inside living 22:53 thing 22:55 if I mean you're making relatively 22:59 simple nano chemicals 23:04 would there be any realistic expectation 23:08 that we would even have the technology 23:10 to make something like these kinds of 23:14 complex machines that we find inside 23:17 cells or what would that really take 23:21 well doing it from scratch I'd say that 23:26 we are decades and decades away from 23:30 that perhaps centuries from figuring 23:32 that out maybe not but if it's a long 23:34 time you know what we decide to do now 23:37 is we just copy we just copy what we see 23:40 in the SAU we we take things out and we 23:44 try to change them a little bit to give 23:46 them some new functionality but all 23:49 we're doing is modifying the master plan 23:51 that's already been enacted there so 23:54 people are finding it easier just to 23:56 mimic what we see in life rather than 23:59 finding basically no basically were 24:01 plagiarizing absolutely it's so much 24:06 easier to just use what's there and 24:09 tweak it for some of our own designs 24:12 that's there so it's I'm sorry we're 24:16 just running out of time but it's fair 24:18 to say that you absolutely believe that 24:22 God is our Creator absolutely I can see 24:29 it the handiwork when I see the 24:32 chemicals coming together when we look 24:34 at a house we don't go well those pieces 24:37 of wood and nails just blew together 24:39 with the right temperature and wind 24:40 speeds so there's no question when we 24:44 look at a house that someone built it 24:45 but when we look at molecules we say I 24:47 have no idea how that happens so chance 24:50 can do that but when we understand the 24:52 chemistry and the mechanisms there we 24:55 start to see the hand of a designer I 24:58 absolutely believe that God is the 25:00 designer and the head chemist that put 25:02 all of this together so that we can have 25:04 life and have life abundantly well thank 25:07 you so much 25:08 for joining us dr. Hayes has been a real 25:10 pleasure and they've made some pretty 25:12 deep insights there yes amen and it's 25:14 just exciting to think about though yeah 25:17 I I cannot imagine at this particular 25:21 point how you could put a living thing 25:24 together from scratch even if you did 25:27 have all of those parts that are 25:30 necessary it's it's truly a triumph of a 25:36 kind of technology that we certainly 25:39 haven't mastered and it certainly points 25:41 towards an incredible brilliance and 25:44 when you think about it I've heard this 25:45 example before if you have a junkyard 25:48 and you throw a bomb out there you don't 25:50 end up with a shuttle and that's what 25:53 many scientists who support Darwin's 25:56 theory seem to be trying to sell us well 25:59 we hope that you've been encouraged to 26:01 understand that God created you and He 26:05 loves you 26:08 [Music] 26:23

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